One of the ways Dictionary.com defines
audacity is, "daring, with arrogant disregard
for personal safety". One of the listed synonyms
is "foolhardiness". All things that come to my
mind when looking at Terrelle Pryor's
prospects as an NFL QB. We will look at the WR
possibilities as well, but first let's analyze
him as a QB.
There is nothing we see in any of our
statistical analysis and metrics, which point us
toward Pryor as even a capable NFL QB; nor have
we seen anything on tape which made us think
different on what the passing metrics and grades
were showing in our system.
Let's just get the "watching on tape" part of
the discussion on the table, and I never trust
my eyes first...I trust numbers. However,
watching Pryor play at Ohio State, (to me)
anyone could see him as an inaccurate, run first
QB, who was constantly uncomfortable in the
pocket. Pryor is a flimsy passer, and he is also
nothing like a Cam Newton or Tim Tebow
as a unique runner either. The thing that jumps
out watching him run in college, is he goes down
way too easy on contact. I have never watched
Terrelle Pryor and been "amazed" or
"dazzled", he is a typical athletic college QB
that is a runner and not a elite decision making
QB. For me, he cannot hold a candle (watching
them on tape) to other big-conference running
QBs like Tebow, Newton, Vince Young or
even Matt Jones (hey, I get to mention
Matt Jones in 2011). That's just my eye-ball
test, I'd rather look at the proof in the
numbers...
Overall in 2010, Pryor's stats on the surface
seem pretty respectable -- 65.0% Completion
Percentage, 27 TDs and 11 INTs. Not all that
bad, but when you break Pryor's season into
pieces...the (bad) truth rises to the surface.
Pryor has a degeneration of his passing
metrics in our system, when we start throwing
out the games against weaker competition and
focus on his statistics against stronger
competition. We see this over and over again in
our computer analysis with the running QBs like
Tebow, V. Young, and 2011 draftee Colin
Kaepernick -- their efficiency goes down
sharply as the competition goes up, as well
their overall passing attempts decline as well.
The lower passing attempts in games versus
rougher competition seems to be a red-flag in
our system...our theory (and it just a theory,
but the numbers don't lie), either their coaches
know the issues and pull back the reigns on the
QB/game plan versus the bigger opponents, and/or
the QB knows it subconsciously...struggling to
read and succeed against the better college
defenses, and thus relying more on what he
really inherently trusts -- their running skills
over their passing skills.
In various stages below, you will see that
when we pull apart Pryor's performance this past
year -- his performance becomes very troubling
against stiffer competition, as well these
metrics are all kinds of red-flags in our
statistical analysis...numbers that match other
historical future QB "flame outs" in the NFL.
Pryor vs. "Little
Sister's of the Poor"
Three of Pryor's 13 games in 2010, came
against non-conference opponents whose athletes
pale in comparison to the athletes at Ohio
State. I don't begrudge OSU (or any college)
scheduling "tune-up" games, but at the same time
please don't factor them in as "serious" games
for an evaluation of an OSU prospect as a fair
judge of their talent/performance
abilities...especially at the QB position.
As you will quickly see below, Pryor stomped
on OSU's 3 weaker non-conference foes...as he
should have. One of Chris Rock's great
takes on people justifying various behaviors and
accomplishments is when Rock comments about
people who say things like, "well, at least
I've never been to jail"...Rock's response
is "What do you want, a cookie? You're not
supposed to go to jail, you low-expectation
having _____ (edit)". If you play at Ohio
State, and you are facing Marshall, Ohio, and
Eastern Michigan...you are supposed to have big
stats.
Todd Boeckman (OSU QB prior to Pryor),
as a starter in 2007, faced Youngstown State,
Akron, and Kent State as part of their schedule.
Boeckman's stats in those 3 games -- 71.0%
Completion Percentage, 6 TDs and 2 INTs. These 3
games below for Pryor are indicative of nothing,
besides statistically "fluffing" the overall
picture...much like taking Basket Weaving in
college to pump your GPA.
|
Opponent |
Comp |
Pass Att |
Comp Pct |
Pass Yds |
Pass TDs |
INT |
Rush Att |
Rush Yds |
Rush Tds |
|
Marshall |
17 |
25 |
68.0% |
247 |
3 |
0 |
8 |
17 |
0 |
|
Ohio |
22 |
29 |
75.9% |
235 |
2 |
2 |
8 |
35 |
1 |
|
E. Michigan |
20 |
26 |
76.9% |
224 |
4 |
0 |
7 |
104 |
1 |
|
TOTAL |
59 |
80 |
73.8% |
706 |
9 |
2 |
23 |
156 |
2 |
|
PER GAME |
19.7 |
27.0 |
73.8% |
235.3 |
3.0 |
0.7 |
7.7 |
52.0 |
0.7 |
Pryor vs. the weaker
Big-10 schools in 2010:
Pryor was also lucky enough to have the 3
worst teams in the Big-10 on his schedule in
2010 -- Purdue (4-8), Minnesota (3-9), and
Indiana (5-7). Combined those 3 teams beat a
total of 3 teams all year from a power
conference/had a winning record.
In no way, shape, or form could any of these
3 teams bottom-feeding Big-10 teams compete with
Ohio State...and in 2010 they didn't, all losing
to Ohio State by a combined 139-20 score. I'm
not thinking that these 3 matchups tell me a
whole lot about Terrelle Pryor's QB
ability at the next level either. As you will
see below -- Pryor stomped all 3 of them
statistically.
|
Opponent |
Comp |
Pass Att |
Comp Pct |
Pass Yds |
Pass TDs |
INT |
Rush Att |
Rush Yds |
Rush Tds |
|
Purdue |
16 |
22 |
72.7% |
270 |
3 |
2 |
4 |
-2 |
0 |
|
Indiana |
24 |
30 |
80.0% |
334 |
3 |
0 |
3 |
-19 |
0 |
|
Minnesota |
18 |
22 |
81.8% |
222 |
3 |
2 |
5 |
55 |
1 |
|
TOTAL |
58 |
74 |
78.4% |
826 |
9 |
4 |
14 |
34 |
1 |
|
PER GAME |
19.3 |
24.7 |
78.4% |
275.3 |
3.0 |
1.3 |
4.7 |
11.3 |
0.3 |
Pryor vs. teams with a
winning record in 2010:
Now we get serious, and now Terrelle Pryor
fades from the statistical elite. A couple
things to notice:
-
Below is Pryor's performance against the
"winning teams" he faced in 2010, and it is
a pretty weak collection. Miami, Illinois,
Penn State, and Michigan were all (7-6), and
Iowa was in a bit of a down year at (8-5).
-
Arkansas was a Top-10 Bowl team, but more
highly rated on the back of a high-powered
offense...not highly rated because of a
sturdy defense (Arkansas allowed 30.3 PPG in
SEC play, gave up 31 to OSU).
-
Wisconsin was the only serious competition
on the schedule...and you can see it was
Pryor's worse game of his season.
If we isolated this list down to just the
best athletes and best coaches, with a defensive
slant -- Miami, Penn State, Wisconsin, and Iowa
were the 4 most "NFL-like" teams Pryor faced.
Pryor's totals in those 4 isolated games = 51.4%
Completion Percentage, 4 TDs and 4 INTs.
|
Opponent |
Comp |
Pass Att |
Comp Pct |
Pass Yds |
Pass TDs |
INT |
Rush Att |
Rush Yds |
Rush Tds |
|
Miami, Fla |
12 |
27 |
44.4% |
233 |
1 |
0 |
20 |
113 |
1 |
|
Illinois |
9 |
16 |
56.3% |
76 |
2 |
1 |
11 |
104 |
0 |
|
Wisconsin |
14 |
28 |
50.0% |
156 |
0 |
1 |
18 |
56 |
0 |
|
Penn State |
8 |
13 |
61.5% |
139 |
2 |
1 |
9 |
49 |
0 |
|
Iowa |
18 |
33 |
54.5% |
195 |
1 |
2 |
15 |
78 |
0 |
|
Michigan |
18 |
27 |
66.7% |
220 |
2 |
1 |
12 |
49 |
0 |
|
Arkansas |
14 |
25 |
56.0% |
221 |
2 |
0 |
15 |
115 |
0 |
|
TOTAL |
93 |
169 |
55.0% |
1,240 |
10 |
6 |
100 |
564 |
1 |
|
PER GAME |
13.3 |
21.1 |
|
177.1 |
1.4 |
.85 |
14.3 |
80.6 |
0.1 |
How does Pryor fare
against other Big-10 NFL Draft eligible/regarded
QBs in 2011?
Perhaps you think "all QBs are going to
have their stats/performance fall against
tougher teams...maybe this is normal?". That
is not true, and the "good ones" don't have
their stats/performance fall as hard as Pryor's
numbers did against tougher competition. Many of
the future NFL elite QBs, kept their performance
levels the same...or actually increased them
against the stronger opposition.
Below are 3 Big-10 NFL Draft rated
prospective QBs for 2011, with their 2010 stats
against only Big-10 teams with a winning record
(no Purdue, Indiana, Minnesota, or any
non-conference). One of these QB's performance
actually increased as the competition level was
increased (Stanzi).
|
2010 Big-10 QB |
Team |
Games |
Comp Pct |
TD/INT |
Pass Yds per Game |
Pass Att per TD |
Pass Att per INT |
|
Ricky Stanzi |
Iowa |
6 |
65.9% |
13/2 |
231.3 |
13.1 |
85.0 |
|
Scott Tolzien |
Wisconsin |
5 |
72.3% |
6/3 |
183.0 |
16.8 |
33.7 |
|
Terrelle Pryor |
Ohio State |
5 |
57.3% |
7/6 |
168.4 |
16.7 |
19.5 |
Pryor is last/worst in every nearly every
performance metric category vs. Iowa's Ricky
Stanzi (5th Round Draft pick in 2011) and
Wisconsin's Scott Tolzien (undrafted in
2011, but will get a shot with someone). Being
the 3rd best out of 3 isn't bad if everyone
among the 3 all had great stats, it's just that
Pryor has troubling/red-flag performance metrics
levels in this snapshot -- less than 60% Comp
Pct, and nearly an INT for every TD.
NFL QB
that Terrelle Pryor most compares to statistically/physically
in our system...
Looking at taller, more inaccurate QBs on the
completion percentage side as well as more
tendency toward INTs -- Derek Anderson is
a near match as a passer. Obviously, Pryor
brings more to the table as an athlete...but we
are just looking at passing metrics here.
-
"Adj" means just key
games/better competition -- weighted for
strength of opponent (our own proprietary
work)
-
"per 35 att" numbers
are the key games, weighted for strength of
opponent and then translated into an average
as if every QB had an equal 35 Pass Attempts
per game all the time, and thus what would
each QB produce (in college) if they had 35 passes per
game based on the key games their final
college season. In an attempt to somewhat
equalize the college performance and show
you what our systems sees.
|
QB |
Yr |
College |
H |
W |
adj Comp Pct |
Adj Yds per Comp |
adj Pass per TD |
adj Pass Per INT |
x |
Yds per game 35 Att |
TDs per game 35 Att |
INTs per game 35 Att |
|
Pryor, Terrelle |
2010 |
Ohio State |
76.5 |
240 |
56.2% |
12.9 |
21.0 |
26.2 |
|
254.5 |
1.7 |
1.3 |
|
Anderson, Derek |
2005 |
Oregon State |
78.1 |
242 |
49.5% |
12.9 |
20.6 |
26.9 |
|
223.0 |
1.7 |
1.3 |
|
O'Connell, Kevin |
2007 |
SD State |
77.0 |
225 |
60.6% |
10.5 |
56.3 |
46.4 |
|
222.3 |
0.6 |
0.8 |
Terrelle Pryor Overall Score =
+0.148
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Draft Projections...
I cannot believe that anyone will draft Pryor
as a QB prospect for the NFL, but I can't
believe a lot of things that happen in the NFL
with some of the lower-tier organizations. This
is a pick that screams of Oakland or Cincinnati.
However, there is another angle in play --
Terrelle Pryor the WR prospect. Pryor at
6'4+ and 240 pounds, with good speed and
strength, is an awesome WR prospect purely based
on his amazing physical measureables. On that
basis, and that basis alone, Pryor is worth
burning a late to mid-round draft pick in the
2011 Supplemental Draft. However, Pryor's
character is so tarnished...and I've seen
interviews with him over the past 3 years, and I
think that behind-the-scenes he is more
frightening than many perceive (psychologically)
-- all this leads to a likely limited amount of
suitors willing to take on the risk. Bringing
the WR aspect into it along with a willingness
to overlook the character issues -- I could see
Tampa Bay, Seattle or Minnesota entering the
picture as possible landing spots.
No matter what happens with Pryor, we see
little chance of him succeeding as a NFL QB
according to our statistical analysis. The WR
aspect, a mild intrigue. What I personally think
we are looking at is a Matt Jones 2.0
(Arkansas elite running QB, turned WR for the
NFL Draft, struggled in the NFL, and had major
issues off-the-field).
Given the off-field issues, work ethic and
decision making issues Pryor has exhibited -- If
I ran an NFL team, I would think I could find a
bunch of tall, athletic WRs to gamble on in any
given year mid-NFL Draft...without all the
drama. For Fantasy Football 2011, I have zero
interest. For a Dynasty Fantasy Football League
Rookie Drafts, almost no interest in a gamble
with him becoming a competent NFL WR (or QB).
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